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Post by hunt4fun1 on Apr 23, 2004 0:00:16 GMT -5
Which brings me to my NEXT point:
Do ya'll ACTUALLY KNOW a gay man?
I know TONS of them.
In my business, you are bound to run into several at some point.
What messed up in the head people they are. Suicide rate is high and for good reason.
Mentally, they are the MOST difficult folks I deal with. NOTHING is EVER right and can not ever be fixed. And if our craftsmen can build it or fix it, it can't be done.
We build the most beautiful custom leather furnitre in the State of Texas and more than 1/2 the problems we encounter are from gays or gay decorators.
I absolutely HATE them.
They are so entirely wrapped up in whatever made them wrong, that they take it out on their clients and the people that try so hard to help them.
Quikly, in conclusion, the world would surely be better off without them.
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Post by RedOak on Apr 23, 2004 2:12:40 GMT -5
Yes I have known several. I would say they fall in roughly two types. The flaming faries that you can spot a mile away and those you would never know unless they tell you. I would agree that the first group fits your assesment. I also would asy the lesbians I have known follow roughly the same pattern as well, with the butch bull dykes comming in on the unhappy with the world end of the spectrum.
New studies into brain activity are showwing more and more that people seem to be built to tick a certain way. Not just gay men, that one was done quite a few years back. It revealed very different brain activity than normal males.
While I dont think this next is the root cause of their problem with the world I certainly dont think it helps them either. Stop and think what it must be like. You are different. Not just a little different from the norm but practically off the scope on the different metter. You are loathed, feared and despised by society. You are quite freely discriminated against and even open for physical attack. You cannot marry the person you love. Not really a happy looking picture is it.
I used to work for a big real estate company. What I did ranged from service calls to practically interor decorating. So I know they angle you are talking about. We used to have a sure way of spotting one if showing a house/apartment. The first thing they would say was how lovely their drapes or curtains would look on the windows. I think when it comes to painting a place them and some women in their 40s+ just can never be satisfied. When I moved on into contracting for myself I had got to the point where I could spot these kind of people. My way of dealing with them was I would make it clear that they were purchusing the paint even though I would be buyying it and I was merely providing the aplication there of. I know you used to be an interior decorator and know what I am talking about. That chip that looks like something a buzzard wouldn't touch dont look good on the chip (even though they always say it did) and sure is going to look bad when on a wall or a house.
So anyway in my conclusion they would be less of a pain if things weren't so stacked against them.
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Apr 23, 2004 7:36:19 GMT -5
So, are you suggesting that they are born that way?
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Post by RedOak on Apr 23, 2004 8:38:25 GMT -5
I think some are, probably not all but some. For the others it is a lifestyle choice thing I guese. If you think of all the baggage that is going to come with that choice, why would anybody make it. Also if you study history it seems to be common with all cultures and societies. Tolerence of it and degree of openness about it naturally varies but it is there, so I think that would really eleminate the argument of choice brought on by loosened morals in our society.
I just saw a thing yesterday on the news about a brain scan study done between Democrats and Republicans and the effects on brain activity in different thought centers of the brain.
These studies are interesting to me in that they show different people "think" in different ways. Whether this is a result of concious dicissions or are the results of some gentic pre-disposition I have no idea. I think as more data comes in over the next several years we will find people are more controlled by their genetics than we currently think.
Really I have no problem with anybody until they start trying to ram their views down my throat and then I get very intollerent and very twitchy.
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Post by noonebil on Apr 23, 2004 16:15:02 GMT -5
I have known several homosexual men & even more lesbians. The 'flamers' usually steer clear of me because I don't speak politically correct (in other words, I don't condone their activities). I make it clear that I see their actions as a sin no different than cheating on a spouse, backbiting, etc. Those that have stayed around long enough to hear me out usually find out that I believe all people have sinned & theirs is no worse than mine or anybody elses. I do not pass judgement on them. I do pray for them.
I agree that some men are 'wired' to be more feminine & some women are wired to be more masculine. That is not what makes them homosexuals. I know several of both that are not homosexuals. It is the acts that homosexuals choose to participate in that are the sins.
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