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Post by hunt4fun1 on Oct 30, 2003 22:31:59 GMT -5
I want to take a whitetail with my .30-30 this year and I gotta ask a couple of questions.
1) At what distance (max) would you feel ok taking a deer with this cartridge?
2) What kind of knock down does this round have at 100-130 yards?
Before you answer, here is the vital information:
I will be in a 15 foot tri-pod with a 90 degree fan as a field of view.
Opportunities could easily be out to 100 yards +.
Southwest Central Texas so there will be alot of brush.
150 grain Winchester Power Point Plus.
There is a feeder directly in front of the stand at about 40 yards with a clear shot.
I have an un-obstucted field of fire of about 45 degrees infront of me and out to about 60 yards.
Winchester model 94.
Iron sights only.
Hunting the same tri-pod morning and evening.
Now, I want a safe kill and I WON'T take a shot unless I know it's a good T-bone shot. I DO NOT want to track a wounded animal.
I could take my 7mm Rem Mag but I really want to harvest a whitetail with the .30-30.
Please let me know what you think (all things considered) and your personal experiences with this cartridge while hunting.
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Post by BT on Oct 30, 2003 23:15:40 GMT -5
I personaly would pefure 170 silver tips or 170 rem cor-lots. the 150 dont add enought extra volicty to make up for the punch of the 170.
open site i would limet my self to 100-125yds.
with extreamly good light 150 may be do abile.
with a scope 200 is not out of the question. "put that there for comparision.
my chart for bolistics for that load is.
mv-2390 E-1902//
100yds V-2018 E-1356//
200yd V1684 E-944//
300yds V1398 E-651//
with a zero of +3.8 in high at 100yd is on at 200 and 16.6in low at 300yards
I have taken deer and hogs with the old 30/30 and have sean black bear taken first hand with it.
I have never used the 150 i have all ways stuck with the 170.
i have all ways had good luck with it being used as a brush rifle.
most of my shots with it have been on moving game. in very tight places range musserd in feet not yards.
i have had only 1 core seperation i shot the deer at about 10 feet the bullet went through both sholders but came to rest under the far side skin with out the bullet jacket. hope this helps
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Oct 30, 2003 23:28:05 GMT -5
I've tried the 170 gr and I just don't get the acuracy I like out of the gun so I stick with the 150's.
I feel ok out to 120 yards with the iron sights as long as there is plenty of light.
Thanks BT...you know I value your opinon.
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Post by BT on Oct 30, 2003 23:34:40 GMT -5
thats a good reasion to use the 150's i did not eaven think of the aceracy ? most of the peopel around here think they can get futher shots using them and i was "thinking localy" on that one.
120 is a very acceptal range.
btw the power points are probly better than the silver tips using the 150 they dont expand quit as quickly st or cl
good luck buddy
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Oct 30, 2003 23:55:22 GMT -5
I have a bad feeling that I'll be making a stupid mistake taking an unscoped rifle out with me.
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Post by Bucktales on Oct 31, 2003 0:12:21 GMT -5
H4, that 30-30 has killed more deer than the plague. You wont be making a mistake with an un-scoped rifle.
You just have to be comfortable shooting it. I would be extremely confident using a 30-30 out to 150 with iron sights. Take it out and get yourself a deer.
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Oct 31, 2003 0:12:23 GMT -5
BT, what do you have on the 150 gr Winchester Power Point Plus?
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Oct 31, 2003 0:14:06 GMT -5
Thanks Bucktales........I just want a clean hunt and I know what I can do with the 7mm but REALLY want to take the .30-30.
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Post by BT on Oct 31, 2003 0:46:34 GMT -5
h4 if you mean bolistics the chart that in my first post was for the 150pp.
or do you mean the harder to open?
if so from what i have been told the pp has a little heaver jacket and not as much lead exposed as the st.
i have done my on test with the 170 pp and st out of the 30.30 and got a biger mushroom from the st but more pentration with the pp.
i have also done it with the 06 and found the same results.
i use 180gr pp in my 06's
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Post by deerslayer11 on Oct 31, 2003 1:11:04 GMT -5
I always used 150s in mine. Do like I did last year when I hunted with the AR15 take em both, when light fades you still have the scoped gun.....
As for the 30-30, bust it if you can hit it. I hunted with a dude when I was in HS that shot a doe at close to 300yds with his, Ill never know how he made that shot. If I hadnt been there there is no way I would have believed him.
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Post by NitroHunter on Nov 1, 2003 21:44:46 GMT -5
300 yds with a 30-30........that dude must be a sniper! ;D
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Post by mudfish2 on Nov 2, 2003 0:59:59 GMT -5
I had these same questions not to long ago..my wife loves the 30-30 and I wanted to know the best round...I think SH suggested get the biggest core-lok you can get..try to hit them in the neck..said they would drop in their tracks
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Post by deerslayer11 on Nov 2, 2003 3:20:03 GMT -5
Trust me when I say he is no sniper, just a lucky SOB that day.
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Post by NitroHunter on Nov 2, 2003 18:11:55 GMT -5
That sounds more like it. ;D
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Post by benhuntin on Nov 4, 2003 14:34:37 GMT -5
The furthest i have ever shot a deer with my 30-30 (150
grain power points) was around 100 yards. It was a double lung hit and that deer ran about 75 yards before it piled up. I personally wouldnt shoot at a deer with open sights at that distance. (Due to my accuracy at that distance. Deer can cover alot of ground with a marginal lethal shot from any gun and the 30-30 is not the gun to accidentlly be making marginal shots with.
Let practice be the judge. If you can keep the bullets in a pie plate consistantly at 100 yards shooting offhand with open sights then go for it. If not, then cut down your range.
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