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Post by WR on Mar 26, 2004 22:27:43 GMT -5
How do they do in very low light situations ? I can imagin you would be able to see the dot , but i was wondering bout rest of scope ?
And if you would buy one what would it be ?
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Mar 27, 2004 12:23:26 GMT -5
I have a buddy that has one on his .45-70 and it won't hit crap.
I know other guys that swear by em.
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Post by Shorthair on Mar 28, 2004 16:10:27 GMT -5
I thought those were only for pistols?
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Post by Dave1 on Mar 28, 2004 20:58:52 GMT -5
WR
I have an UltraDot 30mm 4MOA red dot scope on my Contender 7x30 long range hunting hand gun. I chose the red dot because the traditional hand gun scopes have such a tiny field of view and the eye relief is critical and very difficult to use in typical low light hunting situations.
I chose the UltraDot brand because some of the national championship handgun shooting teams use them on their 45 autos and other custom built competition handguns. I figured that would be a good testimonial of the scope's durability, accuracy, useability.
My hand gun off a bench rest will shoot 1 1/2" groups at 150 yards with the red dot. The dot can be seen in just about any light but in brite light you have to turn it up to higher briteness settings. In low light hunting situations, it is great. I am very pleased with my set up with the red dot. The drawbacks are that you have to turn it off/on and if you misstakingly leave it on, you may have to put a new battery in it. The battery in mine is over two years old and still going strong.
In so far as being able to see the dot, if you can see the deer you CAN see the dot! You can see the dot when you can't see the deer!
If possible try to find someone that has a good one and try it out on the range or in the woods. I would avoid the cheap models as they are very problematic. The UltraDot I have was about $125 (included rings) bought directly from the distributor.
Good luck.
Dave1 Winter Springs, Florida
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Post by WR on Mar 28, 2004 21:53:39 GMT -5
Thanks dave that's what i wanted to know . ;D
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Post by Dave1 on Mar 30, 2004 7:42:35 GMT -5
WR
I forgot to mention about the dot size. The dot size is rated in MOA and smaller is definitely better. Example; a 4 MOA dot will cover 4 inches at 100 yards. The larger the dot the more of the target it will cover. At long distances this can be a problem especially when trying to do precision type shooting at targets. On deer sized game it is not too much of a problem out to about 150 yards.
To target practise with my Contender handgun with red dot scope I use a 100 yard small bore rifle target which has a black 6 inch +- center section. You can clearly see the red dot in the middle of that black target and it makes target shooting at 100 yards very easy.
Hope this helps.
Dave1
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Post by WR on Mar 31, 2004 21:37:01 GMT -5
Gotcha ..The smaller moa the better . What does MOA mean ? thanks again
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Post by deerslayer11 on Apr 1, 2004 8:44:15 GMT -5
MOA= minute of angle a fancy way to say a one inch square. Or circle in this case.
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Post by Dave1 on Apr 1, 2004 13:02:02 GMT -5
MOA is minute of angle. Also represents one inch at 100 yards. A 4 MOA dot would cover approx 4" at 100 yards. That is why some folks don't like the red dots because the dot does cover up some of the target and is not as precise as a regular cross hair type scope. Dave1
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