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Post by RedOak on Jan 17, 2004 7:16:38 GMT -5
Have yall kept up with some of the latest proposals coming out of the whitehouse? Free Trade Act of the America's. I may have the name wrong on this one but it is basically a NAFTA deal with central America. Basically this would just help out US companies that have already moved their production facilities to Hondurous and such. Most of these are textile manufacture's (check your clothing labels and see where it was made). The dropping of illegal status for aliens that can prove they have job in the US. This one really pisses me off. Supposedly this is just for those jobs that Americans wont do. Yeah right and all the Mexicans are working at chicken plants. How this will work if passed is that a company drops its pay to minimum wage (if there is such a hinderance left anymore). After all their American workers get fed up and quit they bring in the illegals from their recruiting station in Mexico or where ever. I guese as long as you beat the drums of war and invade a couple of chump countries all is well and good since I havent heard much bitching about either of these proposals.
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Post by Shorthair on Jan 17, 2004 21:07:27 GMT -5
The joker is smoking crack. I can't believe this latest junk. I swear I'm not gonna vote for him when he does this foolishness and then Ilook at the goobers on the Democrat side and say " George you've got me right where you want me, you old dog".
I guess the Libertarians are gonna parade Harry Brown out there again for us?
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Post by RedOak on Jan 17, 2004 21:14:51 GMT -5
Damn Bush irratets me. His best proposal is also one of his worst. Yes we need to get on with the giidyup in space. Damned if it is good time. I know Sept 11, Afganistan and Iraq ran up the bill, but 7 frigen TRILLION dollars in DEBT!
Like we couldnt have passed up on the cash cow that "The Homeland Security and Patriot Acts" gave out. crap these are the bigest freedom grabs since the "war on drugs". What grudging respect I have gained for this administration I have about lost.
And I aint whining about no WMDs in Iraq. They are there, somewhere under the sand.
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Post by RedOak on Jan 17, 2004 21:23:48 GMT -5
Yeah I guese I am voting for Harry Brown again I will be damned if I am voting for anybody from either of the major parties. Zell could get it but he aint running. I am so fed up with the crap as usual. I look at what pisses me off and then look at the Libertarian plank. As Union I would take hands-off to money to DEMs for little and I shouldn't have to explain the Republican view on this. 2nd Amendment is there in its right.
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Jan 19, 2004 18:51:01 GMT -5
The man still has my vote. I refuse to waste it on a candidate that hasn't got a chance in hell of winning.(Don't get mad, guys. I won't beat this dead horse anymore).
I gotta admit, the space thing was REAL BAD TIMING at very best. It makes him look a little off his rocker. Especially with the cost of this mad idea.
I guess what I want in office is a man with simular values and morals as me, i.e., no fags gettin married, harsh punishment for ciminals, etc. And the whole gun thing too. I just have more faith in a Republican to ensure our rights stay, at least, the way they are and don't get any worse.
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Post by Shorthair on Jan 19, 2004 23:40:08 GMT -5
I agree with Geogre on the issues you point out but he is a moderate( as I feared from the begining ) just like his father. I don't worry about deficits the way the Dems do but I do worry about a fool who comes up with huge new spending programs without eliminating old wasteful programs to accomodate the new spending first.
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Post by noonebil on Jan 19, 2004 23:47:25 GMT -5
Again, I agree with Shorthair. It's kinda picking the least of two evils. The Republicans are all about the needs of corporate America. The Democrats are all about giving to the poor. Where's the candidate for the average middle class working person?
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Post by Shorthair on Jan 20, 2004 5:57:56 GMT -5
Where's the candidate that can stick the form of federal government that the founding fathers envisioned? No moe unfunded mandates from Washington. No more tax schemes that entice people to behave in certain ways to suit Washington. No federal entitlements i.e. Medicare(which now includes perscrition drug coverage). No more handgun bans or any other violations of the second amendment. No more unreasonable search and seizure i.e. random drug tests or sobriety road blocks. No more endangered species act grabbing land from the rightful owners because a snaildarter is in the owners creek.
I have a list from here to Texas but you get my point.
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Jan 20, 2004 9:03:00 GMT -5
Where's the candidate that can stick the form of federal government that the founding fathers envisioned? . No where in hell close to getting elected. That's where he is. And he ain't EVER gonna be.
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