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Post by flhuntress on Nov 29, 2003 19:51:41 GMT -5
say 2 hunters were traveling from point a to point b in a small truck...full of huntin' gear in the cab with them.....to try to get organized for the short drive (maybe 1/4mile on a dirt road (in the woods)) the passenger leans a UNLOAED gun against the inside of the door which allows the guns barrel to stick out the window...(pointing up)....this was witnessed by someone who knows what type of hunter you are (ethical) but this person decides to blow it allllllllllllll out of proportion just so he can make the DRIVER look quilty of being an unethical hunter...and does so by leaving a note on the sign in sheet which is seen by everyone and picked up by a state employee stating this??
was it unethical for the PASSENGER to have a unloaded gun leanin' against the inside of a door?
how should the driver handle being intentionally dogged on due to the tattle tale intentionally leaving a nasty lil note for all to see?
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Post by Bucktales on Nov 29, 2003 20:21:09 GMT -5
Was the gun in a case? I would think you looked pretty suspicious if it wasnt in a case.
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 29, 2003 20:39:26 GMT -5
no it wasn't but it wasn't me that had the gun out the window...it was the passenger....but i got the blame cause this person's purposely trying to make me look bad in everyone's eyes....this person knows that i'm ethical....just trying to make me look bad.
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Post by Shorthair on Nov 29, 2003 21:43:51 GMT -5
Me thinks y'all have way too many trouble makers down there in your area. That's just what me thinks though.  |
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 29, 2003 21:50:03 GMT -5
think i'm just gonna let this one blow over....it's not worth stressin' over....i know i didn't do anything even close to unethical and anyone that truly matters knows the real me and how i am.
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Post by noonebil on Nov 29, 2003 23:28:33 GMT -5
Technically driving with a loaded rifle or shotgun is illegal in Georgia (I'm not sure about Florida) even for a short distance. The gun should have been unloaded before entering the truck.
Having said that, I see nothing ethically wrong with what your passenger did. This 'nit picker's' ranting will more than likely fall on deaf ears for those that know you.
I agree with SH. I hate when someone doesn't have the guts to be up front with someone they have a problem with. If they can't do it, then maybe you should. Just make sure you have a witness.
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Post by Shorthair on Nov 30, 2003 6:34:20 GMT -5
i know i didn't do anything even close to unethical and anyone that truly matters knows the real me and how i am. This topic seems to get way too much attention down there too. We all like to follow the rules around here but we put much more focus on hunting skills and taking game. We admire somebody that is darn good hunter and can find and bring in game. Of course if you're a rogue outlaw you will never make it to that esteem. |
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Post by deerslayer11 on Nov 30, 2003 8:01:57 GMT -5
What is the difference between having the gun on your right or left side? There isnt one. if you are digging through the crap between the driver and passenger and the gun is in the way there isnt anything wrong with putting it on the otherside.
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 30, 2003 11:11:16 GMT -5
don't know if y'all missed this but the gun was
UNLOADED..................no bullets anywhere even close....so there was nooooooooo possibility of it shooting anything.
she may have been a lil wrong when it comes to the laws but the gw's would have understood....and that still doesn't give the idiot that wrote the note any right to make me look bad when it wasn't me that was doing anything....if he wanted to be a jerk he should have left a note stating that the PASSENGER was to blame but he would rather make me look bad at any cost.
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Post by CuttnStrut on Nov 30, 2003 11:27:32 GMT -5
I don't think it is a matter if the gun was unloaded or not really. I keep hearing about how ethical you are in this thread. Why would you give this person any ammunition at all or anyone for that fact. We as hunters are being viewed by everyone that hunts or doesn't for matter of fact. We have to always show that we are doing things the right way atleast to some out their(antis) As the driver you are responsible for your passengers actions when they are in your vehicle. Why would anyone really want to drive around with a gun out the window anyways loaded or unloaded to many things can happen (bump the scope or get dinged up) now if you were going to shoot something then it would be best to hang the barrel out the window I think. I am just rambling about something I don't understand anyways sorry!  |
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 30, 2003 11:50:22 GMT -5
i understand that it's the driver's responsibility to make sure that their passengers aren't doing anything wrong and in my opinion this person wasn't doing anything wrong....
the gun was UNLOADED and there wasn't any possibility of knocking the scope seein' because there wasn't one....and we would NEVER shoot something out of a truck...this person who tattled KNOWS this.....the passenger was just makin' room for the ride.
and i didn't realize that DRIVING would give anyone any ammo to use against me....if the person had a problem with it then he could have said something to the passenger or left a note saying that the passenger had the gun out the window but he chose to exclude that fact just to make me look unethical which was waaaaaay uncalled for and very immature....not to mention wrong.
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Post by noonebil on Nov 30, 2003 12:28:39 GMT -5
This person needs to be confronted. Have witnesses though & KEEP YOUR COOL. No matter how right you are, throwing a fit makes you look bad & discredits you. Do you know why this person is out to smear your name? If not ask. If you have wronged this person try to make it right. Or at least apologize. If you have not wronged them, make it clear to everyone in your hunting area what the REAL beef is about. Exposing it will make their further harassments seem petty to the others in your hunting area.
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 30, 2003 16:43:48 GMT -5
i see the point now but it really doesn't apply since only hunters are allowed on the wma during hunts...plus only him and his buddy saw us. me being ethical or not isn't the issue here...it's the fact that this person made me look bad instead of my passenger (which he knows also).....he did it out of spike and hatefulness just to make me look bad...doesn't matter what ammo i give or don't cause he'll find any reason to trash me...this was just another time he succeeded.  |
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Nov 30, 2003 18:27:10 GMT -5
I drive around with my .30-30 in my gun rack all the time.
What's the big deal?
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Post by flhuntress on Nov 30, 2003 19:19:53 GMT -5
legally we don't think we did anything wrong....still trying to find stats but it's all confusing....one site says that it has to be in a case but then again hunting is one of the exceptions.
i got pulled over a couple years back after skeet shootin'...had tons of guns with me....the policeman didn't say anything about them not being in cases.
hm was pulled a couple weeks ago by a trooper...her muzzleloader was on the front seat (loaded)...no cap...he didn't say anything to her about it being legal or not either.
eventually i'll figure it out.
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