Dog hunter/still hunter scenerio

[benhuntin]

Lets say you are stand hunting on public land and some dog hunters run a buck by you. You kill the deer.
Question is this. Should you feel obligated to offer some of the deer to these other hunters?
How do you dog hunters feel about this.

[hunt4fun1]

Good question bro.
It's illegal to hunt with dogs in Texas so I don't think I have a good answer.

[GAPORKCHOP]

I am a still hunter, and I have killed deer while still hunting that dogs have ran passed me. I didn't feel obligated to give him part of the deer, but I would have.

[GAPORKCHOP]

I did call the name on the collar and hold the dog until they got there so they wouldn't have to search for the dog.......I figured that was helping them out.

[noonebil]

I feel no obligation to even share the deer in these cases. I was not participating in their drive. It is just chance that the dogs ran the deer past me. Kind of like when a hunter walking to their stand spooks a deer my way. I don't share with them.
I have heard of instances where the dog hunters are adamit that the deer is wholly theirs. This can get a bit dicey as there are usually 10-20 hunters & doggers in these groups. I think I would use my better judgement if the situation gets hostile (10 - 20 guys with guns is nothing to toy with). Maybe offer a deal.

[benhuntin]

noonebil said:

I don't share with them.
I have heard of instances where the dog hunters are adamit that the deer is wholly theirs. This can get a bit dicey as there are usually 10-20 hunters & doggers in these groups. I think I would use my better judgement if the situation gets hostile (10 - 20 guys with guns is nothing to toy with). Maybe offer a deal.

That is the basis to my question. I had it happen to me a couple of times many years ago and it just happened to a freind of mine last weekend. He said these guys were furious that he had shot "their buck". They cussed and ranted &raved so much that my friend gave them most of the deer and just kept one ham and the horns.

[gulfcoasthunter]

We used to have this happen once in a while when we ran dogs and it depended on the situation. In our area there are areas open to dog hunting and areas that are still hunt only. If I were still hunting in a dog hunt area then I would split the deer but if the dogs were running in a still hunt only area then the deer belongs to me. I personally wouldn't still hunt in an area where dogs are being run. My dad almost shot a guy once because the guy was sitting out in the middle of a chop behind a pile of logs left by the loggers and the deer we where running ran right past the pile of lofs where the guy was sitting and my dad shot the deer, it fell within 10 yards of the guy. After the deer fell the guy stood up, not wearing any hunter orange, and luckily my dad makes sure at what he shoots cause thinking the guy was the deer getting up he put the cross hairs on him before he relized it wasn't the deer. The guy swears he shot at the deer and there where two entry wounds but my dad had shot twice at the deer also. We didn't argue with the guy and let him have the deer but my dad kept the rack. The reason we gave the guy the deer was my dad had already killed a nice 8 and 9 point less than an hour earlier.

[gulfcoasthunter]

I assume this happened in the national forest Ben and in a case like that I don't know what I would do. There are no still hunt only areas but the guy should have known how heavily dog hunted that area is. I'll ask my brother-in-law what the official rule is on that since he is the game warden over in the national forest south of hosford.

[deerslayer11]

All I want is a pic and the rack anyway, but if 10-20 guys wanna get an attitude I can gaurantee yall I will leave with the deer.

[Shorthair]

noonebil said:

I have heard of instances where the dog hunters are adamit that the deer is wholly theirs.

These are the people that give dog hunting a bad name.

As a dog hunter I will say if the dogs run the deer to you and you shoot it....congratulations buddy you got yourself a deer. I will also say thank you for stopping the race so we could catch the dogs and I'm glad we didn't mess up your hunt.

[BlueNorther]

It's a scenario that will never happen here,but if I was hunting on public land and a buck goes by me chased by dogs I'm taking it and it's mine.I would expect no less if I pushed a deer into standers and they shot it,all part of the game.

[benhuntin]

I get up before daylight and go out onto public land where both still hunting and dog hunting is allowed.
I setup my treestand in a funnel area well away from the road. At daylight a few does mingle by and about an hour later I hear dogs running. A buck comes bounding by and I shoot him. MY deer. (This is what happened to my buddy.)

Next, I am walking through the woods and hear some dogs running. I run down a firelane to a clearcut just as the dogs run the buck out of the woods. I shoot the buck. I would definatly share this with the rest of the group if they wanted.

My opinion is that the deer belongs to whoever shoots it. If dogs are running and a stillhunter purposely tries to cutoff the deer before it gets to the dog hunting party
I would say that still hunter is being discourtious.
But for some to say that "as soon as my dog starts barking at a deer that deer belongs to me", is ludicrous.

[gulfcoasthunter]

Well no deer is worth getting killed over and argueing with idiots with loaded guns is just asking for trouble, wether it be the dog hunter or still hunter. If it can't be resolved peacefully then leave the deer before things get out of hand. These kinds of conflicts are why dog hunting around here is just about dead and is dying all over the south.

[gulfcoasthunter]

I talked to my brother-in-law who is a game warden and he said legally the deer belongs to whoever shot the deer. So if this happens again instead of argueing with the people just offer to let the game warden settle it.

[Shorthair]

benhuntin said:

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But for some to say that "as soon as my dog starts barking at a deer that deer belongs to me", is ludicrous.

We need to get these inbred dolts out of hunting all together. They would probably be just as muchtrouble in the woods if they weren't dog hunters.

It breaks my heart to hear of dogmen that act this way. They are the bad apples spoiling our whole barrel, so to speak.